Comments on: Letting things get under my skin; or, being an idiot http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/ I write, therefore I drink tea Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:11:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Lilian http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Lilian Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:51:10 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2056 Oh, dear. This all went a bit over my head, I'm afraid. I did the sitting quietly in the corner thing, because I really *am* (relatively) new to the place, I just don't do confrontation, and, to be honest, I usually end up reading so many posts in one go that I'm totally confused by the time I get to the latest one so it might just have passed me by! Serves me right for not checking in more often, I know. Sorry if you felt a bit alone out/in there. Oh, dear. This all went a bit over my head, I’m afraid. I did the sitting quietly in the corner thing, because I really *am* (relatively) new to the place, I just don’t do confrontation, and, to be honest, I usually end up reading so many posts in one go that I’m totally confused by the time I get to the latest one so it might just have passed me by! Serves me right for not checking in more often, I know. Sorry if you felt a bit alone out/in there.

]]> By: healingmagichands http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2035 healingmagichands Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:27:47 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2035 This is part of the reason I no longer participate in that forum. I sometimes wonder if anyone there noticed that I left. This is part of the reason I no longer participate in that forum. I sometimes wonder if anyone there noticed that I left.

]]> By: Reed http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2027 Reed Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:08:42 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2027 I am sorry to say the emerald chanteuse's bollocking was preying very much on my mind when I decided to say not very much, and then spent a week stewing about it. As for the creme de menthe, oh, hey, at least she has beautiful breath. I am sorry to say the emerald chanteuse’s bollocking was preying very much on my mind when I decided to say not very much, and then spent a week stewing about it. As for the creme de menthe, oh, hey, at least she has beautiful breath.

]]> By: Aphra Behn http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2022 Aphra Behn Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:13:28 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2022 >> Now, either I have missed something in my lackadaisicalery, and Person is allowed lee-way the rest of us aren’t and wouldn’t dream of claiming, for reasons I have not understood, or I am excruciatingly thin-skinned and up myself. >> Person seems to still be perfectly unaware that he/she/it behaved badly, and therefore hasn’t learnt anything any way at all, and that other regulars buttered Person up, I've mentioned it in the other place, but I'll mention it here. Person seems to post in a parallel universe. He ignores the main debates and the main debaters ignore him. I always found it very odd. It's rather as if you are all conducting the conversation with your friends while you have a cat in the room, or a monomaniac, persistant and oblivious 3 year old. He seems, may the goddess forgive me, not to be the brightest pixel on the screen. Is it possible, in that context, that nobody called him on his accusation because everyone is used to ignoring the implications of what he say? Did they just do that this time out of habit? Or is the elephant not just sitting in the room, but tip-toeing around walking on egg-shells? It it possible, given the bollocking that the emerald chanteuse got for politely warning a proto-troll where lies the boundary between trolling and not-trolling, that no-one dares call a troll a troll in case they get similarly bollocked? Do have <i>any</i> idea what a year of binge drinking creme de menthe does to a girl? >> There have been a number of elephants in that particular sitting room, for quite some time. Quite. (What a menagerie this is: cats, three year olds, elephants, eggshells, trolls, singers.... all we need is an animated beanbag and the whole thing can really tumble into farce). Love you all Aphra. >> Now, either I have missed something in my lackadaisicalery, and Person is allowed lee-way the rest of us aren’t and wouldn’t dream of claiming, for reasons I have not understood, or I am excruciatingly thin-skinned and up myself.

>> Person seems to still be perfectly unaware that he/she/it behaved badly, and therefore hasn’t learnt anything any way at all, and that other regulars buttered Person up,

I’ve mentioned it in the other place, but I’ll mention it here. Person seems to post in a parallel universe. He ignores the main debates and the main debaters ignore him. I always found it very odd. It’s rather as if you are all conducting the conversation with your friends while you have a cat in the room, or a monomaniac, persistant and oblivious 3 year old. He seems, may the goddess forgive me, not to be the brightest pixel on the screen.

Is it possible, in that context, that nobody called him on his accusation because everyone is used to ignoring the implications of what he say? Did they just do that this time out of habit?

Or is the elephant not just sitting in the room, but tip-toeing around walking on egg-shells? It it possible, given the bollocking that the emerald chanteuse got for politely warning a proto-troll where lies the boundary between trolling and not-trolling, that no-one dares call a troll a troll in case they get similarly bollocked? Do have any idea what a year of binge drinking creme de menthe does to a girl?

>> There have been a number of elephants in that particular sitting room, for quite some time.

Quite.

(What a menagerie this is: cats, three year olds, elephants, eggshells, trolls, singers…. all we need is an animated beanbag and the whole thing can really tumble into farce).

Love you all

Aphra.

]]> By: David http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2019 David Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:31:14 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2019 For me, it was one of those cases of 'sit on hands and sew lips up', partly because I still (still!) feel like a relative newcomer and am unsure how to deal with outbreaks of Unpleasantness. And, like others, I sort of try to read Person's posts, but find them rather confusing. For me, it was one of those cases of ‘sit on hands and sew lips up’, partly because I still (still!) feel like a relative newcomer and am unsure how to deal with outbreaks of Unpleasantness. And, like others, I sort of try to read Person’s posts, but find them rather confusing.

]]> By: Reed http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2017 Reed Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:47:27 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2017 There has been a terrifying silence in the othr place since I posted a grouchy email on the subject in question on the day in question. Which is one reason why I started this. For all I know there were dozens of attempts at a response and the other place's surver has been eaten by termites. Will try again. *pause* Well, I went directly there and posted. It's showing up on the other place's website. Perhaps only the email-receiving server has been eaten by termites. There has been a terrifying silence in the othr place since I posted a grouchy email on the subject in question on the day in question. Which is one reason why I started this. For all I know there were dozens of attempts at a response and the other place’s surver has been eaten by termites. Will try again.

*pause*

Well, I went directly there and posted. It’s showing up on the other place’s website. Perhaps only the email-receiving server has been eaten by termites.

]]> By: Sol http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2016 Sol Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:38:41 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2016 This Person is a bit prone to making statements I sometimes feel ought to object to. In fact, I thought his original post was pretty awful with its 'why don't They all go back where They came from' comments. I deal with this by making it a policy to ignore everything the Person says on principle. I have wondered in the past though whether we are all just ignoring the visits form the Daily Mail because we haven't noticed them in the backlog, don't want to get into a fight, or what. As for the concilliation, I think it's one of those uttons that people would do anything rather than be accused of pushing. You're right, though. As Santra says: 'Oh yeah, umm, why didn't I...' Can I assume that my email to the other place didn't get through then? I haven't had anything from there since Saturday. This Person is a bit prone to making statements I sometimes feel ought to object to. In fact, I thought his original post was pretty awful with its ‘why don’t They all go back where They came from’ comments.

I deal with this by making it a policy to ignore everything the Person says on principle. I have wondered in the past though whether we are all just ignoring the visits form the Daily Mail because we haven’t noticed them in the backlog, don’t want to get into a fight, or what.

As for the concilliation, I think it’s one of those uttons that people would do anything rather than be accused of pushing. You’re right, though. As Santra says: ‘Oh yeah, umm, why didn’t I…’

Can I assume that my email to the other place didn’t get through then? I haven’t had anything from there since Saturday.

]]> By: Teuchter http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2013 Teuchter Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:07:23 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2013 There have been a number of elephants in that particular sitting room, for quite some time. There have been a number of elephants in that particular sitting room, for quite some time.

]]> By: Titania http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2012 Titania Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:52:23 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2012 Any other forum - I know, I know... *squirms* That's the problem with the Ateilier, isn't it? You feel all too comfortable to bleet out a number of personal views/opinions/feelings when BAM! it's interrupted by someone/something. *shudders when remembering Oetzi* Any other forum – I know, I know… *squirms*

That’s the problem with the Ateilier, isn’t it? You feel all too comfortable to bleet out a number of personal views/opinions/feelings when BAM! it’s interrupted by someone/something.

*shudders when remembering Oetzi*

]]> By: Reed http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-2011 Reed Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:18:00 +0000 http://www.out-of-ideas.com/2007/07/05/letting-things-get-under-my-skin-or-being-an-idiot/#comment-2011 Hello, you two. Feeling slightly less like an idiot now, thank you. If this little kerfuffle had happened on any other forum I would not have batted an eyelid, you know. *sigh* On any other forum, I'd have made the above points right then and there with all the self-doubty bits left out, though I like to think I wouldn't have got all sarcastic or anything. SG V says he learned the value of saying "oops, sorry about that" the quite hard way (good for him!) - well, my irritation is down to the fact that Person seems to still be perfectly unaware that he/she/it behaved badly, and therefore hasn't learnt anything any way at all, and that other regulars buttered Person up, thereby giving the impression that said forum is not, after all, a haven of civilization in an Internet of drivel and bile, but merely a slightly more grammatical adjunct to said drivel and bile. In which case, what was the damn point of making such an effort to stay with it, at a time when frankly is was very hard work indeed to get the milk out the fridge? Hello, you two. Feeling slightly less like an idiot now, thank you.

If this little kerfuffle had happened on any other forum I would not have batted an eyelid, you know. *sigh* On any other forum, I’d have made the above points right then and there with all the self-doubty bits left out, though I like to think I wouldn’t have got all sarcastic or anything.

SG V says he learned the value of saying “oops, sorry about that” the quite hard way (good for him!) – well, my irritation is down to the fact that Person seems to still be perfectly unaware that he/she/it behaved badly, and therefore hasn’t learnt anything any way at all, and that other regulars buttered Person up, thereby giving the impression that said forum is not, after all, a haven of civilization in an Internet of drivel and bile, but merely a slightly more grammatical adjunct to said drivel and bile. In which case, what was the damn point of making such an effort to stay with it, at a time when frankly is was very hard work indeed to get the milk out the fridge?

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